Kelly and Joel did talk about marriage and family, since Joel wanted to settle down already. She also wanted to settle down, but not just with him. So she just told her mother, “Yeah, we have talked about marriage and family already. But then our relationship is still very new, Mom. We both think that it would be best not to rush and just get to know each other much better before we move to that phase of our relationship.” Her mother pointed out, “But you are both on your late 20s already. With men, there wouldn’t be a problem reproducing even at a latter age, but with women, the recommended childbearing age is between 25 and 35 years old. You shouldn’t wait until you are 30. After a year of dating, and you are still together, then you should already consider getting married. You were so